IDLF DUI WTF Open Thread

I don’t regularly go onto The Google and type in the terms “councilman dui.” After Oakland District 5 Councilman Ignacio De La Fuente’s arrest for an apparent DUI violation earlier this morning, I was curious.

The final tally: 61,800 results, most of them from media outlets. Included were a Hercules councilman’s DUI last month and an incident in which a Westminster councilman wrapped his Mercedes around a telephone pole in 2009. After lightly going over some of these incidents, it seems that all of the guilty properly lawyered up and got probation to the tune of 2-3 years, which may have included ankle monitoring. Could IDLF receive a better or worse fate?

This blog tends to stay away from profiling politicians, but IDLF’s dissenting vote (conditional as it was) earlier in the week makes this issue somewhat relevant. Rumors have been swirling about IDLF potentially taking a job within incoming Governor Jerry Brown’s administration, and this would undoubtedly have a negative impact on his chances. As for keeping his job at Oakland City Hall, it’s probably safe. IDLF is halfway through his current term, his fifth. None of the articles I skimmed in my highly unscientific review indicated that any of the offenders had to vacate their positions, as long as they didn’t maim or kill anyone in the process. I don’t mean for this to sound glib, that’s just the way it seems to shake out. On a personal front, the man has been through worse.

If you’d like to steer the discussion away from IDLF, by all means! Be my guest. Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and be smart if you’re gonna imbibe. Get a designated driver, use public transportation or take a taxi.

36 thoughts on “IDLF DUI WTF Open Thread

  1. No comment here from me on IDLF’s DUI. Thank God no one was hurt or killed.
    Merry Christmas to all and catch you all on the boards in a few days. Gonna take a breather. Hopefully, we’ll hear some good news coming out of Oakland (for a change )after the New Year pertaining to the ballpark saga.

  2. Merry Xmas and Happy holidays, to all the A’s fans on this board. Maybe Santa Claus will put a certain Third Baseman under our tree!

  3. Merry Christmas everyone!

  4. Merry Christmas to all.

  5. Like I said…I HATE Ignacio De La Fuente!!!…Merry Xmas everyone

  6. Or stay at home and drink to your heart’s (or liver’s) content.

    Or stop drinking all together, my preference.

    Once again, common sense seems not so common with too many people.

    Oh, and going off-topic, if there’s one thing positive about NBC being bought out by Comcast, it may be that there may finally emerge a competitor to ESPN, which would be good news for leagues like the NHL, MLS and even the NBA, which can go back to NBC with the right deal.

    Roundball Rock, anyone?

  7. Hate is a very strong word! Merry New Year!

  8. As if we needed any more proof that IDLF is a douchebag loser.

  9. And of course, all of San Jose’s elected officials are clean, honest, and send candy or flowers every day to Bud Selig.

    • And of course, all of San Jose’s elected officials are clean, honest, and send candy or flowers every day to Bud Selig.

      Rob,
      What the hell does IDLF being a “loser” have to do with San Jose anyway? Oh, let me guess, for you it’s now “open season” on everything/anything SJ, as has been proven by some of your most recent posts.
      FWIW, I don’t think IDLF is a “loser,” he just made some very poor choices as of late that thankfully only resulted in being insulted (no serious injuries or possible loss of life). As an Oak pol, he does seem to have the city’s best interests at heart; hence his objection to the VC EIR.
      If this is the last thread prior through Friday…HAPPY NEW YEARS ALL!

  10. I’ve read and heard IDLF has done some good things in his Fruitvale district over the years, but I think it’s time for this dude to hang it up. He’s embarrassed himself as of late with these various incidents, including the no vote for VC. Just think if Dellums didn’t run in 2006 for Mayor, IDLF would of probably won and the A’s would sure to be gone to who knows where. Dellums kept theballpark talks going, then will hand the torch off to Quan who will finish the job. Just need new ownership now to save the team.

  11. Um, voting against an EIR for your favorite team’s stadium and driving drunk are not on the same level. Only one is truly shameful, at least in the eyes of sane adults.

    • Um, voting against an EIR for your favorite team’s stadium and driving drunk are not on the same level. Only one is truly shameful, at least in the eyes of sane adults.

      Even voting against the EIR should not be considered shameful, at least in the eyes of many Oakland residents. Heck, it’s fair to say that running any municipality (even SJ) is a lot more than just supporting sporting venues for out of towners/sports fans; see schools, libraries, city services, crime, etc etc.

  12. @NT–True, but it would be nice if it was a unanimous vote to send a message to MLB that they are serious, and I find that a little shameful. Nancy Nadel, the other no vote, votes no on everything that’s good for the city and is pretty hopeless. She was against Uptown in 2002 and the renovation of the glorious Fox Theater. They both ran for mayor and lost, so I call them losers. They won’t run again, cuz they’ll never win.

  13. If someone had said that the news about IDLF is just another example of how Oakland politicians are corrupt and/or incompetent that would have been considered a fair statement since that city’ s leadership problems is one reason why nothing has been done up until recently to get a stadium proposed. I know nothing of what goes on in San Jose government, but I can pretty much guess where the discussion would have gone.

  14. So if the SJ city council tomorrow decided to no longer support a baseball stadium effort because there were more pressing civic issues you’d be perfectly okay with it? Tony, I’m not buying your “sympathy” for IDLF unless you can somehow show that your position would be exactly the same had he voted FOR the Victory Court EIR. But then again, this isn’t about what’s best for the A’s, it’s about what’s best for the SAN JOSE A’s.

    • So if the SJ city council tomorrow decided to no longer support a baseball stadium effort because there were more pressing civic issues you’d be perfectly okay with it? Tony, I’m not buying your “sympathy” for IDLF unless you can somehow show that your position would be exactly the same had he voted FOR the Victory Court EIR. But then again, this isn’t about what’s best for the A’s, it’s about what’s best for the SAN JOSE A’s.

      You’re one funny guy Rob! I know Rhamesis get’s a kick out of our exchanges. Of course I PERSONALLY wouldn’t be OK with it! But if that’s what the council’s official position was and the majority of SJ residents supported it, I would look real stupid trying to bash and insult the council members and their decision (considering I’m currently not even a resident of San Jose; like many here aren’t actual residents of Oakland). What “sympathy” for IDLF? All I stated was that some Oakland citizens might actual support his position re the EIR, but whatever. “This isn’t about what’s best for the A’s”…OF COURSE ALL OF THIS IS ABOUT WHAT’S BEST FOR THE A’S! Always has been, always will be! By the way, “SAN JOSE A’s” does have a nice ring to it (just saying). Peace Rob!

  15. @Georob–you nailed it. Nice post.

  16. IDLF is against the EIR for the A’s only because of the bad deal the City/County got themselves into when the Raiders came back in 1995.

    He was part of the committee that brought back the Raiders and helped put the City/County into massive debt on Mt. Davis.

    Plus it cost them an additional 16M when Schott sued when they reneged on the Coliseum being re-modeled for baseball only.

    IDLF feels that because of what happened the “well is poisoned” with the A’s because of the past and wants Oakland to deal with the Raiders on a new stadium.

    Al Davis wants to stay at the same location and having the A’s there only complicates things. With both teams leases up in 2013 something has to give.

  17. Tony, I’m not sure if RM enjoys our exchanges. I think he gets annoyed when discussions go off topic and get personal. However, the thing to remember is that team pride and civic pride is what drives most of the traffic on this and other sports blogs. It’s why most of us support teams to begin with. To think otherwise is just being naive.

  18. I’ll just end this thread discussion between us with this Rob; if Oakland hadn’t neglected the A’s for the past 15 years, we wouldn’t even be talking about San Jose now would we. Until the next thread/topic…

  19. Like I said, it’s not about the A’s, it’s about cities. Quit pretending otherwise.

  20. Oakland by itself could never support the A’s. San Francisco by itself could never support the Giants. And San Jose by itself will never support whatever teams choose to play there. Wherever the A’s wind up, they need to do a better job of marketing to the entire region. Most markets in the country are dominated population-wise by one city. Not the case with the Bay Area.

  21. @Georob- You need rich fans and a corporate base in order to succeed long term now a days. San Jose has both while Oakland does not. Therefore the South Bay could in fact support a team without support from the East Bay or the Peninsula or even SF for that matter.

    Also to your second point San Jose does dominate its market population wise (1M out of 2M people) while Oakland does not (400k out of 3M) and San Francisco does (800k out of 1.2M)

    That is why SF and SJ should be by “logic” where all the Pro-teams in the Bay Area need to be. Hence why the 49ers and A’s are trying so hard to move down there.

    San Jose to Oakland or to San Francisco is a long drive or vice versa in traffic is brutal. You need market to your immediate region before going outside the area to other sub-regions in the same market.

    The A’s unfortunately have issues because of the dump they play in and the Giants playing so close across the Bay from them hurts marketing because SF/OAK are the same metro area. It does not make sense to build so close to SF when their ballpark is ranked #1 by Forbes.com.

  22. Wait a minute….Tony D. is NOT from SJ? Credibility of his
    post goes down to zero.

    • Wait a minute….Tony D. is NOT from SJ? Credibility of hispost goes down to zero.

      If you had been here at this site longer than a day you’d know that I’m from SJ (born, raised, and now work) but now reside in the beautiful suburb of Gilroy. Why does where one lives have any bearing on “credibility” anyway? Almost all of us here aren’t actual voting citizens of either SJ or Oakland, so in your eyes I guess none of us are “credible.” Perhaps you should go back and stay on MySpace; this site may be to much for yah. That is all.

  23. No matter where a team plays, they will need fans from all over the region. A team in Oakland will draw from SF, Alameda, Contra Costa and even parts of the peninsula and the South Bay. But again, people are falling into the trap of just focusing on individual cities. It happened when we were talking about Fremont and seeing posts about “Fremont can’t support a baseball team with only 200,000 people.

    Oakland is guilty of neglecting the A’s, for sure. But again a city of 300,000 NEVER could have supported a MLB team just by itself. And San Jose’s 1 million citizens will still need the help of the surrounding 2 million at least. And whatever arguments people make about the South Bay’s corporate base, it doesn’t seem to be swaying MLB owners. What are we at now, almost 700 days of hearing that an announcement about San Jose is “just weeks away”? Jeesh!

  24. Curious what the pro-oaklanders plans are for financing venues for the Raiders/A’s/W’s with the leases expiring in the next 2-6 years?

  25. I pay no attention for a few days. I come back. Same tired garbage.

  26. Where you live doesn’t hurt your credibility, Tony. Making personal attacks does. Case in point: “Perhaps you should go back and stay on MySpace, this site may be to much for yah”. That’s just plain rude. Not to mention the countless times you’ve labeled me a “San Jose hater” simply because I point out what I feel are flaws in the San Jose supporters point of view.

  27. Georob-ill bite. What are the flaws in SJs plan that oakland may have an advantage?

  28. In my opinion, San Jose has failed to make the case to MLB that moving the A’s there does not negatively impact the Giants. I don’t think anyone (including me, an alleged “San Jose hater”) would dispute that San Jose and the South Bay could successfully support a baseball team. That’s not the issue, however. For whatever reason, the MLB owners aren’t convinced a San Jose move is a good one. I think there are still owners that would like to see the Bay Area go back to one team. Other owners legitimately feel that Santa Clara County belongs to the Giants, particularly if “franchise value” is driving this. Then there’s the New York owners who see a legitimate threat on the horizon in New Jersey. Yes, the Nationals were allowed into DC once a deal was worked out with the Orioles, but the fact that DC had a team before(twice, in fact) may have been the difference. Who knows?

  29. Georob – So just to be clear, the only flaw that you see in SJ’s case is how it affects the Giants? No issues with funding, support, etc.?

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