Comments on: 49ers Stadium going up quickly

By: LoneStranger

LoneStranger — Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:38:14 +0000

@letsgoas – I guess if the statues are outside of the gates, then sure, there might be a problem. But that’s a problem regardless of who plays there or what the statue is of. Someone will want to vandalize it.
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But whatever…. if you want to think some simple logistical issue would be a deal breaker, then fine, keep on believing that.

By: letsgoas

letsgoas — Thu, 06 Sep 2012 07:41:36 +0000

guards and locks to monitor the actions of every statue or exhibit on the grounds? think either or both orgs have better things to do than to worry about having a fence or guard surrounding certain spots on the grounds.
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also niner and raider fans not being together isn’t even in my thoughts on what would worry me. it’s them being alone by themselves every week in tens of thousands where there are always a few idiots who could vadalize one another’s prosperties that could cause issues.
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still believe in the end that the niners will keep the stadium as their own and the raiders will continue to play at the coliseum until they can find a new venue themselves. even as a niners fan i’d love to see the raiders stay but in the long run it’ll likely be their very own football stadium because of the reasons stated above given by those analysts on chron live earlier in the week.

By: LoneStranger

LoneStranger — Thu, 06 Sep 2012 06:05:12 +0000

There are options to avoid the other team’s fans from messing with the exhibits. 1) Guards, 2) Locks. It’s a simple problem to solve. You make it seem like the Niner and Raider fans will be there at the same time each week… they won’t, except for once every four years. I would think the rest of the time the teams will be separated by home/away or Thur/Sat/Sun/Mon schedules.

By: letsgoas

letsgoas — Thu, 06 Sep 2012 05:49:14 +0000

i think the niners statues and hof will be there. i just don’t know if the raiders org themselves will have a space carved out for them is the point or if as i’ve talked with some of my niners friends in real life or even those online whether or not they’d want the raiders fans to be given the chance in messing around with niners related “property” with sharing the stadium and i guess you could say the same thing about whether the raiders/raiders fans would want their “property” if were it were to be built on the grounds of that stadium to be disrespected by niners fans.
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unlike the nyg and nyj they’ve been accustomed to sharing a stadium with each other for decades so sharing metlife stadium wasn’t a huge deal, niners and raiders fans i think there is a lot more animosity between the two sides and them coming together to share a stadium, it could take only a few idiots from either side to do something stupid to cause trouble.

By: LoneStranger

LoneStranger — Thu, 06 Sep 2012 05:39:48 +0000

@letsgoas – If the Raiders agree to become tenants of the Niners, I’m fairly certain none of those things you mention will be a problem. I don’t think the Niners would mind giving up some of their statue room if it means a few more millions each year to pay off the stadium. They’d be landlords, not assholes, and the Raiders wouldn’t do it if the Niners were trying to stick it to them.
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P.S. The Coliseum used to have orange seats.

By: letsgoas

letsgoas — Thu, 06 Sep 2012 05:16:58 +0000

i don’t know if the signage will be digital or if those huge posters showing niner players in and around the stadium in all those renderings will be digital either. do know it’ll be strange for the raiders to be playing in a football stadium with 65+ thousand red seats and a niners hof and likely statues dominating the area also. don’t think we’ll be seeing a raiders hof or any statues of great raiders legends, or that “torch” they’ll light up before every home game. really it will be very niner centric, heck the niners hq is just a few minutes away from where the stadium is being built.
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as mentioned o/t here that 95.7 looks as they missed on their chance to land the w’s. i do think they were going strong after them with the lineup with the full time job given to papa and the additions of steinmetz/bucher going towards a heavy w’s/basketball influence. do wonder what 95.7 plans to do? i think cal and the raiders don’t have a contract beyond this upcoming season so both could be available. i don’t know how much of a ratings boost landing the w’s would’ve given you, still don’t think a ton of people actually listens to the w’s or basketball in general thru the radio. have thought that landing an nfl team is the way to go whether it’s the raiders who will be available after this season or the niners who just reupped with knbr before last season and won’t be available for at least another couple of years. have to think the raiders should be the next target for 95.7 as there really isn’t any other team worth getting until at the earliest the niners and that’s what 3 years away so might as well “test run” with the raiders for the next few years after their deal with 105.3 runs out after this season.

By: Dude

Dude — Wed, 05 Sep 2012 23:53:44 +0000

Forbes has the Niners rocketing up to 9th just because the stadium is financed (and in fact under construction). I wonder how much farther up they will go when they actually start generating more revenue with it.

By: pjk

pjk — Wed, 05 Sep 2012 23:03:35 +0000

BTW – I believe the $1.1 billion and $785 million figures above are what Forbes what values the teams at, not the actual losses they sustained. According to Forbes, the Cowboys, at $2 billion, are worth more than twice as much as the Raiders.

By: LoneStranger

LoneStranger — Wed, 05 Sep 2012 20:41:13 +0000

OT: Warriors staying with KNBR: http://richliebermanreport.blogspot.com/2012/09/warriors-stay-with-knbr-why-because.html

By: pjk

pjk — Wed, 05 Sep 2012 17:51:54 +0000

an NFL tidbit from Forbes, if Forbes is to be believed: Forbes projects only two teams had operating losses last year — the Pittsburgh Steelers ($1.1 billion), due to a higher payroll, and the Oakland Raiders ($785 million), thanks to having the lowest revenues in the league.

…125 state-of-the-art luxury boxes added to the Coliseum, paid for by the taxpayers, yet the Raiders still have the lowest revenues in the league. Any wonder Wolff & Co. are not willing to risk spending $500-$600 mill of their own money on a ballpark there?