Comments on: Blips and trends

By: pjk

pjk — Wed, 03 Oct 2012 13:46:01 +0000

Do Papa, Poole, etc have someone in mind willing to commit to spending $1 billion+ to buy the A’s and build in Oakland on their own dime? Didn’t think so…

By: berry

berry — Wed, 03 Oct 2012 05:59:15 +0000

Dave? Do u need ur bottle?

And don’t count the Oakland movement out davey boy…all Oakland had to do is show some progress especially if Coliseum project could actually be kinda good. And my man Selig could be like HOLD UP SAN JOSE. Let’s not forget the Sf giants in the playoffs too just like us. So This and possible next season will determine if the A’s or Giants deserve san Jose. Checkmate

By: daveybaby

daveybaby — Wed, 03 Oct 2012 05:17:27 +0000

Why does berry sound like another poster that got banned a few months ago?
For me, the most frustrating thing we have heard from the pro-Oakland camp is, “If you put a winning team on the field, people will go.” This team has not just won this week, but has had an amazing season, really taking off with a record-setting July. And the crowds never really seemed to have showed up en masse.
Is it a good thing that 12,000 people can walk up and buy a ticket for the best game in the majors on a free parking night? I don’t think so, but hey, 12k came out could have done something else I guess. It seems like, if anything, this season and the success of it has worked FOR Wolff’s argument, not against it.
I can’t help but think that the Oakland movement has had numerous opportunities this year to create, at minimum, some anecdotal evidence as to the long-term viability of the A’s in Oakland. Monte Poole mentioned about an East Bay renaissance, and the horrors of that for the owners. I have to question if that renaissance ever actually happened.
In any case, what a ride, all credit to those fans who made it out, great to see the electric energy at the park. To quote my favorite musical, “One more dawn, one more day, ONE DAY MORE!”

By: berry

berry — Wed, 03 Oct 2012 00:58:08 +0000

Your right Tony D….
even though its not over.. i hope Quan can convince Safeway, Clorox, Chevorn or somebody that SPENDING MONEY on the A’s (along with the Raiders) in Oakland will be better today tommorow.

ML… if the A’s move to San Jose… have there been any disscussion on changing or alternating the teams colors or will it be the same??

By: Tony D.

Tony D. — Wed, 03 Oct 2012 00:40:32 +0000

RM,
respectfully: just keep in mind tomorrow that many A’s fans, this one included, harbor no ill will towards Lew Wolff. To many times the media has portrayed all A’s fans as abhorring Wolff simple based on what the Oakland-only say. Nothing could be further from the truth.
One major component to this debate that folks constantly ignore (traditional SF media included) is this: private financing of a ballpark. Would a new ballpark in Oakland be packed with A’s fans, especially if they’re winning? Of course. Now, how do you get to that new ballpark in terms of financing and needed revenue ala corporate support, disposable. Income? The answer to those questions will once again show why a privately financed venue won’t work in Oakland.
That all said, doesn’t matter if the A’s are hosting 35,000 consistently at the Coliseum; the underlying dynamics STILL wouldn’t cover the bill for a new yard…GO A’S!!!

By: A'sFan

A'sFan — Wed, 03 Oct 2012 00:31:35 +0000

Obviously the pro-Oaklanders, myself included, can’t make a case to Bud Selig that based on this one fantastic season, Oakland is a viable major league market and the A’s shouldn’t move. That’s a little absurd. However, you couldn’t even tell Selig that this is the best it gets; the A’s payroll is about 30 million short of what it would be if the ownership was actually trying to win. If this is the $55 million A’s, what do the $85 million dollar A’s look like, and what type of crowds do they draw in the Coliseum? 20,000 per game isn’t pretty, but with a team full of unproven 20-(insert a number below 5)-somethings playing in baseball’s worst venue, I’m sure Selig can imagine at least 30K average in a beautiful waterfront park.

I don’t think this season sways the argument in Oakland’s direction, but damn Selig if he hasn’t thought something similar to the above while watching the A’s tear it up this year.

By: jordan

jordan — Wed, 03 Oct 2012 00:11:06 +0000

I laughed this morning and afternoon listening to many hosts saying “this is Lew’s biggest nightmare”. I just kept saying this has no bearing on anything other than other owners being upset they are paying the A’s to beat them. I think that the “hosts” have such a microscopic view of what is going on that it drives me nuts. Everything is so reactionary. I think that anyone who says Lew is mad about this is just hates Lew no matter what. He can enjoy the team knowing that one winning event in an ongoing 10 year timeline does not change any narrative for the need of a new ballpark. Oh, and if he wanted to tank the season, why did he give Billy 36 mil to sign Cespedes.

By: letsgoas

letsgoas — Wed, 03 Oct 2012 00:01:24 +0000

yeah i heard papa today with his a’s aren’t going to go to sj rant and his reasoning made no sense saying that sj is so full of potential that why would any team vote for the a’s to move there when almost every team in the bigs essentially would want to move there themselves due to what he called the 7 richest miles of land in the entire country.
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papa is an ass. i actually thought he’d be pretty good on the radio on 95.7 since he was alright back in around a dozen years ago a the noon host on 1050 but his anti a’s sentiments are glaring which isn’t too surprising to see since not many on the a’s own flagship station seem to care much about the org or fans since the station went to an all sports formats back in the spring of 2011.

By: daniel

daniel — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 23:59:26 +0000

Papa is prepping for a TV gig with the g’s . Ignore him

By: Pauly

Pauly — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 23:50:52 +0000

Papa’s logic is brought to you by the SF Giants.