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Comment on Oakland’s Prevent Defense by thisplanetsux

thisplanetsux — Wed, 23 May 2012 17:00:42 +0000

Except I’m not Oakland Only. I don’t have a “It can never be” sort of opinion about where in the Bay Area the A’s play, beyond the belief that, like the Warriors have decided, somewhere in the vicinity of the Bay Bridge _should_ be the highest priority. I think this Warriors plan is excellent. I think the A’s leaving the Coliseum for similar digs somewhere near the Bay, near BART, in the heart of the Bay Area would be the greatest thing to ever happen. But leaving the Coliseum for the smallest yard in MLB down at South Diridon Station is barely an improvement, IMO. I’m critical of Lew Wolff for running the A’s like a shoestring startup, trying to convince the world that you can’t win in this market. B.S. Higher payroll == more wins == higher revenues. Do your job Lew, talk your market up, bring in and hang onto star players (even minor stars like Josh Willingham, k), have celebrities with you at the games to rub elbows with corporate sponsors, get Mr. Fisher to crawl out of his cave and pretend to be a baseball fan, and you guys start acting like pro sports owners that actually want their customers to come out and spend money and have fun. The, “Woe is me for being saddled with this pathetic and hopeless situation in Oakland…” shtick from owners IS the the biggest problem the franchise has. That and a GM incapable of putting together a decent offense.

Comment on Oakland’s Prevent Defense by Briggs

Briggs — Wed, 23 May 2012 16:40:47 +0000

Oakland’s screwed. If the Raiders are Oakland’s best chance of retaining pro-sports, what the hell is the Bay Area going to do with two football stadiums which are really only good for two things besides football; visits by the Pope and U2. This is gonna sound nuts, but I think Oakland should build some tennis stadiums. As far as I know, the ATP/WTA only uses the HP Pavlova Arena when in the Bay Area. The conditions seem to be right for Oakland to consider this.

Comment on Oakland’s Prevent Defense by Jeffrey

Jeffrey — Wed, 23 May 2012 15:22:33 +0000

TPS- King of the Reactionary Argument

Comment on Oakland’s Prevent Defense by TW

TW — Wed, 23 May 2012 07:48:50 +0000

.213 batting average means ???. They are batting .500 where it counts, wins and losses. What a complete cop out to quote batting average. And what is the cop out for when their batting average and wins-losses were better? It is amazing that people will throw anything at the wall to try and paint the A’s/LW as the bad guys. I guess it must require an amazing level of denial to see the Ws be far less successful than the A’s yet have far better fan support. And please cover your eyes when you look at what LW did to try and stay in Oakland versus what the W’s did to stay. LOL, what a travesty of logic here.
It just goes to show when emotions get involved, facts just go out the window. Oakland blew it with the A’s. ANY decent level of Oakland Pol will to get something done and the A’s would have been playing in their new Oakland stadium for multiple years. Didn’t matter that fan support waned, the path was still there. The Ws got good support from the fans and at least some support from the Pols (a lot! more than LW/A’s)…..yet the Ws are dropping Oakland like yesterday’s newspaper. But the A’s and LW are just awful. truly astonishing…
Many are far to kind to the Oakland only crowd…..as the bottom line is Oakland completely blew it with the A’s and there tactics to change the conversation away from that is funny (as this new blurb about their strategy for the As leaving enunciates). No unbiased view could conclude otherwise.

Comment on Oakland’s Prevent Defense by thisplanetsux

thisplanetsux — Wed, 23 May 2012 06:54:24 +0000

.213 team batting average and they’re outdrawing someone? Awesome.

Comment on Oakland’s Prevent Defense by Jeffrey

Jeffrey — Wed, 23 May 2012 05:39:54 +0000

Awesome. The miner and the bomb strategy lives!

Comment on Oakland’s Prevent Defense by eb

eb — Wed, 23 May 2012 05:30:09 +0000

@pjk Do you ever stop with your SJ vs. Oakland snipes? I have no motivation to get into arguing issues that have been debated ad nauseum on this site. I get that you don’t want the A’s in Oakland, that’s fine. I hope something works out. Let’s just leave it at that.

Comment on Oakland’s Prevent Defense by daveybaby

daveybaby — Wed, 23 May 2012 05:26:50 +0000

Dan – I don’t think Lacob has the ability to pull a Larry Baer. More likely, Stern would say hell to the no to putting a team back in Oakland, considering 11 miles, in his mind, serves the region just fine. But South Bay economics will always keep a strong flirtation with the NBA. Seattle still has arena issues. I would assume a second team in the bay is more appealing than a third team in SoCal.
“…but I just hope the citizens in Oakland and the East Bay, who live and die with these teams, catch a break at some point.” I can’t disagree with that sentiment. There might not be a ton of fans at the A’s games, which is downright depressing, but there are plenty who do go out there night after night, and you have to give those folks credit, and allow that the A’s taking “Oakland” off the jersey will hurt. Nothing wrong with that.

Comment on Oakland’s Prevent Defense by pjk

pjk — Wed, 23 May 2012 04:58:21 +0000

eb: How many live and die with these teams? A’s were next-to-last in attendance last I checked.

Comment on Oakland’s Prevent Defense by pjk

pjk — Wed, 23 May 2012 04:50:10 +0000

Yes, we have a Blue Ribbon Committee formed in Marc 2009 to explore ballpark options in the A’s current territory. 38+ months later, MLB still has no East Bay solution but we do know the committee quickly expanded its search to include the South Bay, outside the A’s territory. If you think that’s speculative and not definitive, than I guess that’s your prerogative.