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	<description>The never ending quest for a proper home for the Oakland Athletics.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Sacramento 22, Seattle 8. Now Oakland&#8217;s turn. by standforcoliseumcity Aaron</title>
		<link>http://newballpark.org/2013/05/16/sacramento-22-seattle-8-now-oaklands-turn/comment-page-2/#comment-108211</link>
		<dc:creator>standforcoliseumcity Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 15:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Jh510
dude you ignored Anon STATEMENT....if a new owner tommoorw buys the A&#039;s... do you really expect everything from new stadium advertising and all that for FREE???

You do need to read ML post the adult conversation.. but i dont think you will..this is the backlash you get from the more delusional Oakland supporter brtethen amongst us...Quan, Dobbins and all the rest really get upset when you ask the adult question... infact jh510..this is why i think u and i know that Oakland teams are going to leave and i feel there just is not enough east bay love and support for the last days of the east bay teams... sad to say it but its a 49ers, Giants and Warriors bay area market now..(even east bay fans are starting to swtich) and those are the only organizations that are getting EVERYTHING.... 

THIS can be stopped, if A&#039;s and Raiders can start winning and we get more political, private and public support. The three ps. but if not.. i understand as an adult that this is business... and i love the Raiders and A&#039;s and if they have to leave Oakland to survive then so be it... but it will all be on us , when we tell our kids, that there a no east bay teams because we didnt do our part... cant blame owners forever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jh510<br />
dude you ignored Anon STATEMENT&#8230;.if a new owner tommoorw buys the A&#8217;s&#8230; do you really expect everything from new stadium advertising and all that for FREE???</p>
<p>You do need to read ML post the adult conversation.. but i dont think you will..this is the backlash you get from the more delusional Oakland supporter brtethen amongst us&#8230;Quan, Dobbins and all the rest really get upset when you ask the adult question&#8230; infact jh510..this is why i think u and i know that Oakland teams are going to leave and i feel there just is not enough east bay love and support for the last days of the east bay teams&#8230; sad to say it but its a 49ers, Giants and Warriors bay area market now..(even east bay fans are starting to swtich) and those are the only organizations that are getting EVERYTHING&#8230;. </p>
<p>THIS can be stopped, if A&#8217;s and Raiders can start winning and we get more political, private and public support. The three ps. but if not.. i understand as an adult that this is business&#8230; and i love the Raiders and A&#8217;s and if they have to leave Oakland to survive then so be it&#8230; but it will all be on us , when we tell our kids, that there a no east bay teams because we didnt do our part&#8230; cant blame owners forever.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sacramento 22, Seattle 8. Now Oakland&#8217;s turn. by JH510</title>
		<link>http://newballpark.org/2013/05/16/sacramento-22-seattle-8-now-oaklands-turn/comment-page-2/#comment-107836</link>
		<dc:creator>JH510</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 05:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Anon: so I&#039;ll put you down for &quot;disagree&quot; then?  Now that you mention it, if a local ownership group did step forward to work with the City of Oakland to privately finance and build a stadium, then yes I absolutely believe attendance would be on par with the Giants and corporate support would be immense.  But we disagree on that point, so we&#039;ll move on.
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On an related note, it never ceases to amaze me is how much energy some people take to try and degrade the activities of other cities and fans, on both sides of this debate.  In Oakland, obviously pep rallies and &quot;drives&quot; aren&#039;t a substitute for the real action that needs happen to build a stadium, but we don&#039;t pretend they do.  Rather, we&#039;re using the tools we have as citizens to support what we think is a worthy cause and asking those in power to act, while also showing our pride in our team.  Likewise, any in Oakland who think simply bashing San Jose is going to achieve anything are completely delusional.  So, for those who choose to spend their energy simply trying to belittle anything that happens in either city in some misguided attempt to make their own cause look better, knock yourself out.  But its too bad those same people won&#039;t spend the same amount of time showing off the positives of your own city, its leaders and its local fans.  
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Ok, rant over, soapbox put away (until the next post at least ;) ).  Meanwhile, anyone see the A&#039;s tonight?  They had a nice little win down in Texas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Anon: so I&#8217;ll put you down for &#8220;disagree&#8221; then?  Now that you mention it, if a local ownership group did step forward to work with the City of Oakland to privately finance and build a stadium, then yes I absolutely believe attendance would be on par with the Giants and corporate support would be immense.  But we disagree on that point, so we&#8217;ll move on.<br />
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On an related note, it never ceases to amaze me is how much energy some people take to try and degrade the activities of other cities and fans, on both sides of this debate.  In Oakland, obviously pep rallies and &#8220;drives&#8221; aren&#8217;t a substitute for the real action that needs happen to build a stadium, but we don&#8217;t pretend they do.  Rather, we&#8217;re using the tools we have as citizens to support what we think is a worthy cause and asking those in power to act, while also showing our pride in our team.  Likewise, any in Oakland who think simply bashing San Jose is going to achieve anything are completely delusional.  So, for those who choose to spend their energy simply trying to belittle anything that happens in either city in some misguided attempt to make their own cause look better, knock yourself out.  But its too bad those same people won&#8217;t spend the same amount of time showing off the positives of your own city, its leaders and its local fans.<br />
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Ok, rant over, soapbox put away (until the next post at least <img src='http://newballpark.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  ).  Meanwhile, anyone see the A&#8217;s tonight?  They had a nice little win down in Texas.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sacramento 22, Seattle 8. Now Oakland&#8217;s turn. by Anon</title>
		<link>http://newballpark.org/2013/05/16/sacramento-22-seattle-8-now-oaklands-turn/comment-page-2/#comment-107827</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 04:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Jh510 - Again, you try to dodge the real issues and instead lay blame on ol&#039; Lew. If new ownership came in then what happens? Oakland gets a free stadium, corporate support, and stellar attendance suddenly? It takes much more than new owners to make a plan viable and you can&#039;t just substitue pep rallies, townhall meetings, press releases, and internet pledge &quot;drives&quot; for the groundwork that KJ and Sac did. Do yourself a favor and read the &quot;Adult conversation&quot; post ML did....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jh510 &#8211; Again, you try to dodge the real issues and instead lay blame on ol&#8217; Lew. If new ownership came in then what happens? Oakland gets a free stadium, corporate support, and stellar attendance suddenly? It takes much more than new owners to make a plan viable and you can&#8217;t just substitue pep rallies, townhall meetings, press releases, and internet pledge &#8220;drives&#8221; for the groundwork that KJ and Sac did. Do yourself a favor and read the &#8220;Adult conversation&#8221; post ML did&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sacramento 22, Seattle 8. Now Oakland&#8217;s turn. by LoneStranger</title>
		<link>http://newballpark.org/2013/05/16/sacramento-22-seattle-8-now-oaklands-turn/comment-page-2/#comment-107796</link>
		<dc:creator>LoneStranger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 03:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@JH510-If people don&#039;t believe that Lew Wolff tried very hard to find a solution in Oakland, well, they can prove him wrong. So far, after however many years, no one has been able to pencil it out.

I really, really, really don&#039;t want new ownership starting over from the beginning and ending up with the same conclusion, only to take the team outside the Bay Area. Even if there is no good location for them to go to now, that could change in the next five or ten years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@JH510-If people don&#8217;t believe that Lew Wolff tried very hard to find a solution in Oakland, well, they can prove him wrong. So far, after however many years, no one has been able to pencil it out.</p>
<p>I really, really, really don&#8217;t want new ownership starting over from the beginning and ending up with the same conclusion, only to take the team outside the Bay Area. Even if there is no good location for them to go to now, that could change in the next five or ten years.</p>
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		<title>Comment on SJ Giants CEO forgets that they&#8217;re part of S4SJ lawsuit by xoot</title>
		<link>http://newballpark.org/2013/05/20/sj-giants-ceo-forgets-that-theyre-part-of-s4sj-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-107776</link>
		<dc:creator>xoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 02:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sure the Giants will just roll over if San Jose gets out the old rent gouge on the SJ Giants while trying to lure another team to town.  Yeah.  Let&#039;s see some more lawsuits.  That&#039;s the ticket.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure the Giants will just roll over if San Jose gets out the old rent gouge on the SJ Giants while trying to lure another team to town.  Yeah.  Let&#8217;s see some more lawsuits.  That&#8217;s the ticket.</p>
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		<title>Comment on SJ Giants CEO forgets that they&#8217;re part of S4SJ lawsuit by pjk</title>
		<link>http://newballpark.org/2013/05/20/sj-giants-ceo-forgets-that-theyre-part-of-s4sj-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-107763</link>
		<dc:creator>pjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 01:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The San Joae Giants: Fighting hard to keep our city of 1 million people a minor league city, only. I say do what the Coiseum Commission is doing to the A&#039;s and propose dramatic rent increases. If the minor league Giants don&#039;t like it, they can move Truckee or some other place better suited for minor league ball than the 10th-largest city in the country.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The San Joae Giants: Fighting hard to keep our city of 1 million people a minor league city, only. I say do what the Coiseum Commission is doing to the A&#8217;s and propose dramatic rent increases. If the minor league Giants don&#8217;t like it, they can move Truckee or some other place better suited for minor league ball than the 10th-largest city in the country.</p>
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		<title>Comment on SJ Giants CEO forgets that they&#8217;re part of S4SJ lawsuit by duffer</title>
		<link>http://newballpark.org/2013/05/20/sj-giants-ceo-forgets-that-theyre-part-of-s4sj-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-107749</link>
		<dc:creator>duffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 00:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not surprising behavior by the giants mgt. - how low will they go with their bush-league stunts? Mayor Reed should boot the SJ giants out of San Jose permanently (He could find a different minor league affiliate to replace the SJ giants easily - before the A&#039;s move here)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not surprising behavior by the giants mgt. &#8211; how low will they go with their bush-league stunts? Mayor Reed should boot the SJ giants out of San Jose permanently (He could find a different minor league affiliate to replace the SJ giants easily &#8211; before the A&#8217;s move here)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sacramento 22, Seattle 8. Now Oakland&#8217;s turn. by JH510</title>
		<link>http://newballpark.org/2013/05/16/sacramento-22-seattle-8-now-oaklands-turn/comment-page-2/#comment-107743</link>
		<dc:creator>JH510</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 00:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Anon: obviously not &quot;realistically saying&quot; that magic will factor in to building a stadium in Oakland.  But that would be great, I&#039;d have gotten my wand out weeks ago.  Anyway, just saying I think the options for a new ownership group that is willing to explore options besides San Jose would be more likely to find a path forward for a new stadium for the A&#039;s than the current ownership group will be able to anytime soon.  Feel free to disagree, just one man&#039;s take.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Anon: obviously not &#8220;realistically saying&#8221; that magic will factor in to building a stadium in Oakland.  But that would be great, I&#8217;d have gotten my wand out weeks ago.  Anyway, just saying I think the options for a new ownership group that is willing to explore options besides San Jose would be more likely to find a path forward for a new stadium for the A&#8217;s than the current ownership group will be able to anytime soon.  Feel free to disagree, just one man&#8217;s take.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sacramento 22, Seattle 8. Now Oakland&#8217;s turn. by standforcoliseumcity Aaron</title>
		<link>http://newballpark.org/2013/05/16/sacramento-22-seattle-8-now-oaklands-turn/comment-page-2/#comment-107737</link>
		<dc:creator>standforcoliseumcity Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 23:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Tony d
Damn that is a preety good idea. Question is....assume there is public and private support to make this new Raider stadium happen. Would it be cheaper to do ur idea eliminate the other 3 non mount Davis sections and rebuild....or just a new stadium is better...again ur a raider fan like I am...I&#039;m trying to gather support in the concord area, and I&#039;m thinking , New Raider Stadium= Superbowl for the east bay.

 This is what the new raider team president needs to consider, when ppl cry about tax dollars for support. I wish mayor quan will tell those ppl to shut it....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tony d<br />
Damn that is a preety good idea. Question is&#8230;.assume there is public and private support to make this new Raider stadium happen. Would it be cheaper to do ur idea eliminate the other 3 non mount Davis sections and rebuild&#8230;.or just a new stadium is better&#8230;again ur a raider fan like I am&#8230;I&#8217;m trying to gather support in the concord area, and I&#8217;m thinking , New Raider Stadium= Superbowl for the east bay.</p>
<p> This is what the new raider team president needs to consider, when ppl cry about tax dollars for support. I wish mayor quan will tell those ppl to shut it&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on SJ Giants CEO forgets that they&#8217;re part of S4SJ lawsuit by jordan</title>
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		<dc:creator>jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 23:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Iam surprised that the CEO did not run his rebuttal by the SF CEO.  Makes him look like an idiot. Iam sure Baer called him, and told him as much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iam surprised that the CEO did not run his rebuttal by the SF CEO.  Makes him look like an idiot. Iam sure Baer called him, and told him as much.</p>
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