This debate happened shortly after Buster Posey’s incredible contract extension was announced.
The Giants owners are paying out salaries that will cut into their profits. The A’s owners profit because they don’t pay out salaries.
— Tim Kawakami (@timkawakami) March 29, 2013
@timkawakami #SFGiants make $90 million more per year than #Athletics – and that’s after A’s welfare check. Giants aren’t suffering.
— newballpark (@newballpark) March 29, 2013
I never said they were. But I do not weep for Fisher and Wolff. Ever. Ever. Ever. RT @newballpark Giants aren’t suffering
— Tim Kawakami (@timkawakami) March 29, 2013
@timkawakami No one weeps for billionaires? Then don’t make a case for them.
— newballpark (@newballpark) March 29, 2013
@newballpark Huh? What case am I making?
— Tim Kawakami (@timkawakami) March 29, 2013
@timkawakami “The Giants owners are paying out salaries that will cut into their profits.” What is that saying?
— newballpark (@newballpark) March 29, 2013
@newballpark It’s saying they could stay around $120M in salaries and pocket the rest and they’re not. Still making a nice profit, no doubt.
— Tim Kawakami (@timkawakami) March 29, 2013
@timkawakami In #SFGiants and #Athletics cases, owners keep payroll at 50% of revenues. Per Selig.
— newballpark (@newballpark) March 29, 2013
@timkawakami This is not about loving or hating owners. It’s about properly describing the inequity. Write about that some time.
— newballpark (@newballpark) March 29, 2013
I respect everything Billy Beane does. Think A’s have a helluva roster. But if the owners can’t make it work, at some point it’s THEIR fault
— Tim Kawakami (@timkawakami) March 29, 2013
@newballpark There are inequities, but what has this ownership done to make up for it? Horrendous TV, terrible marketing, on and on.
— Tim Kawakami (@timkawakami) March 29, 2013
@timkawakami Look, if the #Athletics took off the tarps today and sold 30k/game at the current prices, they’d net $20 million. Maybe.
— newballpark (@newballpark) March 29, 2013
@timkawakami An extra $20 million would allow the A’s to get Joe Blanton and a year’s supply of cupcakes. Inequity is bigger than you think.
— newballpark (@newballpark) March 29, 2013
@newballpark Your example is a great one. It’d be an act of competition. All I’m saying is A’s owners don’t even go through the motions.
— Tim Kawakami (@timkawakami) March 29, 2013
@timkawakami That’s where Beane comes in. Why spend money on a marginal 4-5 starter when team already has several?
— newballpark (@newballpark) March 29, 2013
@newballpark Can agree with a lot of that, but let’s say that $20M PER could be used to re-sign Cespedes. And A’s don’t. That’s my example.
— Tim Kawakami (@timkawakami) March 29, 2013
@timkawakami Regardless of how much money any team makes, they’ll all operate in terms of value propositions. Everything else is P.R.
— newballpark (@newballpark) March 29, 2013
@timkawakami Cespedes signed with the A’s because he can get early free agency after 2015. He won’t be extended before he tests the waters.
— newballpark (@newballpark) March 29, 2013
OK that A’s money chatter was fun while it was lasted. Have just been ordered to write about Buster Posey. End of chatter (for me)….
— Tim Kawakami (@timkawakami) March 29, 2013
Good debate with Kawakami. On a related note, I made this observation when I heard the news:
#SFGiants‘ three 2018 options (Cain/Posey/Bumgarner) are worth $54.4 million. #Athletics‘ 2013 payroll: $60+ million. #Selig
— newballpark (@newballpark) March 29, 2013





