Sabotage in Sacramento

Update 11:04 AM – Now we have the Maloofs’ proposal: Refurbish Power Balance Pavilion/ARCO Arena. Good idea or not? (I’ve been sitting on my post about ARCO, looks like it’ll go up tomorrow.) David Stern and the NBA Board of Governors have a press conference going on now.

As the Maloofs flew to New York to discuss the terms of the Sacramento ESC/Arena deal, civic interests rallied together to write a letter urging NBA commissioner David Stern to find new ownership. Clearly, whatever goodwill was captured a month ago has evaporated.

Sacramento Mayor Kevin Johnson with Kings owners Joe and Gavin Maloof in happier times

The Sacramento Bee followed up with an editorial also calling for the Maloofs to sell. The level of distrust between the two parties is extraordinary. For their part, the Maloofs contend that they remain committed to a new arena in Cowtown, whereas the City and its backers continually accuse the Maloofs of trying to derail every arena plan, going back several years.

My problem with the whole affair is this: Have the Maloofs ever come up with their own plan for an arena? Based on the Bee’s timeline of the Kings’ tenure in Sacramento, the answer is no. They piggybacked onto a railyards plan in 2002, and when it collapsed they blamed the City. In 2006, they famously backed away from arena measures shortly before elections. Now they’re balking at the ESC plan over money for pre-development work. They’ve also attacked the plan’s feasibility and had their lawyers make a huge, aggressive information request of the City over the plan.

KJ took the red-eye to New York to meet with the Maloofs and Stern on Friday. He’ll have the letter and support from the business community and the Bee, which is great. But this request of Stern is not going to change things. Sure, the NBA has leverage over the Maloofs because they’re tapping into the league’s credit line. It isn’t enough to break them. As cash poor as they are, neither they nor the team are in danger of bankruptcy. Kings payroll is the lowest in the league, and the only thing keeping it from dropping lower is the league’s salary floor ($44 million).

Knowing that the Maloofs are wary of Sacramento’s feasibility, Stern should force the Maloofs to do the one thing they haven’t done yet: come up with their own plan. Maybe that incorporates all or part of the ESC plan, maybe it’s something completely new. At least it would force the Maloofs to be engaged to a degree that they’ve never demonstrated. Then Stern can compare what the Maloofs have with ESC, take the best parts from both, and we’ll see who’s truly committed and what’s feasible. It would put ownership on the defensive and compel them to act instead of sitting on the sidelines as they’ve historically done. Stern can extend the artificial deadline another year, which won’t hurt things. If Sacramento can’t work out, they should know by next year, with Anaheim waiting in the wings. if the Maloofs are running into money problems, it’s possible that will be exposed in the next year, which could force Stern’s hand. That’s the only way I can see a sale happening not by the Maloofs’ choice. They’d have to run into a legal/financial crisis that de-prioritizes owning a team. In conjunction, Sacramento doesn’t need to do more than they’re doing now – figuring out the ESC plan feasibility. They’ve bent over backwards and spent a lot of money on this and the failed 2006 plan. And that is much more than I can say for Oakland.

Added: Pro Basketball Talk’s Aaron Bruski covers the Maloofs’ recent actions in great detail.

59 thoughts on “Sabotage in Sacramento

  1. looking at counties in cal by population- find it ironic that sacramento county has 589,232 more people than san fran yet still considered a #cowtown- granted San Francisco is surrounded by other large couties but Sacramento has demonstrated we do support our franchise-what more could the people of sacramento do man- really frustrating

    • @jon campbell

      San Francisco City/County is also only 47 square miles. Sacramento is 966 square miles. So while Sac County has more people, it has 1,400 people per square mile, compared to 17,179 per square mile in SF.

  2. “And that is much more than I can say for Oakland.” – Nice how you never miss an opportunity to take a shot at Oakland. But at the end of the day, Oakland’s do-nothing City Hall may have served its community better than if it had kowtowed to a do-nothing owner. During the years Wolfe and Co. drove the franchise into the ground and a hurled a cleaver through its fanbase, downtown Oakland has blossomed into hipster freaking central. Lots of disposable income. Have the A’s capitalized on that? Hell no. The A’s used to be cool, but are now passe. Too bad, what a waste of handlebar moustaches.
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  3. Im from sac and am indifferent to the Oakland vs san jose crowds for the most part but truly believe for the good of the franchise and just plain catharsis bottom line is Lew Wolff needs to go-

    his tenure as managing partner has been a disaster, that said Billy Beane wont survive long after he leaves either

  4. @Freddy – Good spin! I’m sure City Hall will be patting themselves on the back for “not kowtowing” as tenant teams leave Oakland.

    @jon campbell – I’d like to see how Wolff would do with a new ballpark and more revenue for the A’s.

  5. Back to the Kings, it’s despicable how the Maloofs have handled themselves during this most recent arena situation. The city was asked to come up with 200+ million and they did so. The Maloofs are now acting as though they didn’t think the city could do it, and the city called their bluff so now they’re covering. Problem they’ve got is Stern seems to be on the side of the city in this instance. He helped negotiate this deal, he released league funds to assist where the Maloofs were coming up short. Seems to me it’s time for the Maloofs to either shit or get off the pot. If they have the money to go forward, great do so, otherwise sell. Because the NBA has a big weapon they can use, they can paint the team into a corner by not approving any move if they don’t build the Sac arena. And based on how the owners have turned on the Maloofs as recently as last year regarding not approving their Anaheim move, it seems the owners agree that the Maloofs are idiots and that they won’t approve of them moving to LA.

    Now the Maloofs could always try and pull an Al Davis but they have neither the money nor Davis’ legal acumen to do so. Not to mention there’s always the NBA nuclear option of attempting to strip them of the franchise and reform it as an expansion team.

  6. This arena deal does not get done as long as the Maloofs are full owners. They are clearly fighting tooth and nail to derail it.
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    But I doubt the league and other owners are going to want to turn their backs on a new arena, with major funds coming from Sacramento and from AEG, in a deal that was brokered by none other than David Stern.
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    The Maloofs and their Lawyer would have had to be extremely persuasive to make Stern and the other owners want to turn their backs on this deal. Also, the league and the City have big leverage on the Maloofs – the Maloofs owe Sacramento $62 million, and the leauge $100 million. Clearly, the Maloofs are close to broke, and to Stern and the other owners, they are looking like a financial sink hole to the league.
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    Hopefully, that leverage is used in strong arming the Maloofs into full cooperation on the deal, or selling, because as much as I want this deal for Sacramento and don’t want to lose the Kings, I want absolutely nothing to do with the Maloofs. They have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that they cannot be trusted, or to have the money to put up their part of the deal.

  7. @ Freddy “downtown Oakland has blossomed into hipster freaking central. Lots of disposable income.”
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    Hipsters who fled SF because they couldn’t afford the rent are not exactly the target demo for club and premium seat sales.
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    For that matter, no individuals are. Either eb or Columbo has been making the point recently that there are high net worth individuals in the East Bay. That may be, but most individuals, no matter how wealthy they are, are not about to commit to multiple club seats at $150 each [or suites at $5000 each] x 81 games per season x 5 years. There may be a few, but not many. The target market for that product is businesses that can take the tax deduction and for which the people making the decision to buy the product and not paying for it out of their own pockets. The CEOs and millionaires I know do not spend their money stupidly.

  8. @JC “Lew Wolff needs to go- his tenure as managing partner has been a disaster,”
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    If Wolff succeeds in getting a new park in SJ, he will be the most successful owner in A’s history since moving to California, bar none.

  9. Guys, wrong thread…

  10. @ML- OT- but quick question- any idea if the electrification of CalTrain will require the PG&E substation to be moved?

  11. @GoA’s – No it shouldn’t.

  12. no bartleby- Charlie O won 3 world series’ in a row- I would say he and Walter Haas, whose teams went to 3 in a row were the most sucessful owners…..

    Wollf in his tenure has turned a club that went to the ALCS his first year (with players he had nothing to do with bringing in) to the laughing stock of the American League (with the dwindling fanbase, thanks to himto prove it)

    in 6 years Wolff has turned the A’s into a joke…….and as I ‘ve said before this blog is markedly Por San Jose and if you present any oposing viewpoints you are chastised by close minded people unwilling to see the world for the trees……

  13. Getting extremely off-topic here, people.

  14. That press conference was one of the worst ideas, biggest train wrecks most entertaining in awhile. Why would anyone ever advise them to do it like that. They bashed the city, bashed the mayor, bashed the NBA. Then say we want to refurb power balance. They are so full of it. There broke and have no money. NBA won’t let them relocate cause they liked that deal they made. So maloofs think a half ass attempt of a refurb will count as trying and buy back credit from the fans or nba. They can’t even show up at a game now after today’s debacle.

    I love when he said it was brought on because the mayor lied about him. Followed by saying he never heard the actual comment followed by the comment being read which the mayor didn’t say that.

    To say they never agreed to the deal or liked it but yet did all the media couple weeks ago saying thank you were glad we got it done is a joke. Then George just saying well Gavin was just caught up in the moment and optimistic was just more lies.

  15. THE MALOOFS LIED! THEY NEVER TRIED!

  16. @LS ha, sadly that’s truer of them than Lew.
    Maloofs never thought sac would get a deal done in a year and that was there plan to leave, they got screwed when it happened, which resulted in today’s debacle.

  17. Best boycott suggestion on sac town royalty:
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    “I suggest we show up at the arena (walk not park in their parking lot) and never go into the game. Instead we line up at the ticket windows on game night… ask about all kinds of remaining seats, argue the price, finally agree… then when they need are money… simply say we did not agree to the cost, and as a fan we should not have to pay so much.

    Next… repeat the process”

  18. They want to renovate the same arena they’ve been claiming is inadequate for the better part of a decade? WTF?

  19. Stern’s press conf. Deals dead Maloofs walked away even though MBA was gonna front their whole part. Well that about kills Sacramento basketball unless in the next year before they get their approval to move they actually go broke.

  20. Nba not MBA stupid auto correct

  21. Pretty much. Sac’s only hope at this point is that the NBA relocation committee won’t sanction a move for them and those Maloof morons go broke. Otherwise they’ll be the Anaheim Royals after next season. Which is really pathetic when you consider Sac has done EVERYTHING the NBA asked of them on a new arena. These renovate Arco idea is just a joke. No city would approve a complete taxpayer remodel of a private building like they’re asking for now.

  22. For whatever it’s worth..,
    But friend of mine said right after news broke last year he was up in Sacramento in borders. Two guys came in wearing expensive suits and were chatting near him. They turned out to be part of the Kings legal team. They were talking about how kings were completely broke, the whole family is. Because of it there was no chance they would move because of the money owed Sac. They can’t even bring another owner come in and help pay that debt to move because there are so many other debt collectors in from of them in line. That they could get the money before Sac can. It’s a huge mess and should be interesting to see where it goes.

  23. KJ just held a press conference. Deal is 100% dead in Sacramento. Maloofs don’t want to be there anymore. They’ve suggested the Arco reno but when KJ challenged them about having always wanted a new arena the Maloofs response was, “we can change our minds” which pretty much sums up these morons. Sounds like KJ is just dejected and that the city will never work with a Maloof owned team again. Only way the Kings stay is if the Maloofs go.

  24. If I were Anaheim I would be scared to death to have these guys coming. This is very different from Oakland, where you have a city gung-ho to get a deal done and stepped up and it was ownership that totally backed away. If only the A’s had this kind of civic support in ’95-’96 when they approached the Authority, we would not be talking on this website. Too bad for Sacto, those people are die-hard fans.

  25. dolich was on chron live last night and said between the w’s and kings, he’d believe the kings would get a new arena first in sac than the w’s moving to sf. wow a ton has changed in the past 24 or so hours.

  26. “Charlie O won 3 world series’ in a row- I would say he and Walter Haas, whose teams went to 3 in a row were the most sucessful owners…..”
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    That was great, but those were transitory events. Getting a new ballpark secures the A’s future (and possibility of winning further championships) indefinitely. It’s simply more important. (And, arguably, considering the hand Wolff has been dealt, more challenging).
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    “Wollf in his tenure has turned a club that went to the ALCS his first year (with players he had nothing to do with bringing in) to the laughing stock of the American League (with the dwindling fanbase, thanks to himto prove it).”
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    Please. Both Haas and Finley had bad years, too; it’s a cyclical business. And Finley and Haas both operated in much less challenging competitive environments. Finley was able to treat his players like serfs, and neither Haas nor Finley had to compete with AT&T Park, or operate in an era where premium seat revenue drives the business. It’s an absurd argument.

  27. Anaheim shouldn’t worry much. The deal with Samueli in Anaheim has a condition that if they default on the loan he gets the team. That would happen inside 5 years since the Maloofs have no clue how to run ANY kind of business. They’ve squandered their father’s entire fortune in a matter of 15 years.

  28. Bart, WRONG THREAD! Take it to a thread about the A’s…

  29. As a Sac area resident, I’m a dejected, and relieved, at the same time.
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    I’m dejected because the Kings are as good as gone, and no new arena, unless the NBA hardballs the Maloofs into selling (to Ron Burkle, who’s waiting to swoop in and be part of building in Sac).
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    But I’m also relieved because we just dodged a bullet. Clearly, the Maloofs have neither the money nor the inclination in order to see this deal through, and if just one of the legs of the 3 legged stool couldn’t hold it’s weight, the whole thing collapses, and it’s a big financial nightmare for Sacramento.
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    I’m also glad we won’t have to deal with these idiot, lying yahoos anymore.
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    But we may be stuck with them for a while. It’s not a no-brainer that the NBA grants them the move to Anaheim (3 teams in LA, really?), and no way the Lakers or Clippers cooperate. It could be a situation of “so you think renovating PBP is a good idea, good, so you’re staying, and better renovate”.

  30. Bartleby, you have successfully made me almost choke on my own vomit. The Oakland A’s will never have an owner as amazing as Walter Haas and something tells me the Wolff versus Haas argument isn’t going to go down as a heated point of division among most baseball fans. But, hey, I like Mr. Pibb over Dr. Pepper so who am I to judge.

    As for Sacramento, I feel really bummed for Kings fans. I know how much the Kings mean to that area and it sucks seeing how they’re getting screwed over. It’s stuff like this that makes me really sick of the direction modern sports are heading.

  31. @Jeff -Athletic So if the Kings leave, would you still be a Kings fan? Or will you switch to another franchise? I’m curious about how most Kings fans will handle this.

  32. Reading sac town royalty (which gave you credit today for this post m.l.)
    Has been a total sneak preview the reaction we would have if Selig does come out one day and say San Jose is off limits to the A’s. Just like Kings we will go from feeling good that our team is staying in the area to what the hell happens now because it looks like our team is gone. Both teams there would be no end in site of where there going but staying looks out the window since the current home (arco,coliseum) are falling part and the back up option looks totally unrealistic (Oakland,Natomas)
    With no support for the jilted back stabbed party (Lew, city of sac) by the evil counterparts (oakland council/mlb, maloofs) that have no true will of doing the most obvious sensible option (San Jose/ new sac arena)

  33. eb, as a Kings fan I’d either be done with the NBA completely or find a new team. But if they leave NorCal, fuck the Kings (or more accurately fuck the Maloofs).

  34. Eb my sense is most kings fans would not be fans anymore because there moving out of driving distance, owners said before they would change names and been backstabbed by the team after the most miraculous come from behind win to be grabbed away at the last second (in baseball comparing the we’re moving to you have a year to get a deal done to how my god we did it to where are we today would be like a team being down 9 runs in the championship game, then scored a miraculous 10 runs in the top of the ninth, seeing the trophy in site but with two outs in the bottom of the inning the ego maniac closer sees the manager he hates getting all the credit for his key pinch hitters that came through in the rally so he plunks the next batter and tosses a batting practice fastba to the cleanup hitter)

  35. @eb “Bartleby, you have successfully made me almost choke on my own vomit.”
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    I am sorry that you vomited. I am glad you did not choke.
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    “The Oakland A’s will never have an owner as amazing as Walter Haas and something tells me the Wolff versus Haas argument isn’t going to go down as a heated point of division among most baseball fans.”
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    Maybe not as of today, but most baseball fans can’t see the big picture. Haas won one title, then had to dismantle the team because his model was not sustainable. Wolff has the chance to give us a great gameday experience and competitive teams for the indefinite future. Seventeen years from now (which is how long Haas has been gone), we may have gotten to see the A’s win multiple championships in a state of the art venue, and the world may look very different.
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    Let me put it this way, if you gave me the chance between a World Series win this year or a new ballpark, I would take the ballpark.

  36. “in baseball comparing the we’re moving to you have a year to get a deal done to how my god we did it to where are we today would be like a team being down 9 runs in the championship game, then scored a miraculous 10 runs in the top of the ninth, seeing the trophy in site but with two outs in the bottom of the inning the ego maniac closer sees the manager he hates getting all the credit for his key pinch hitters that came through in the rally so he plunks the next batter and tosses a batting practice fastba to the cleanup hitter”
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    Wow, that was one heavy duty analogy. I’m out of breath from reading it.

  37. “Maybe not as of today, but most baseball fans can’t see the big picture. Haas won one title, then had to dismantle the team because his model was not sustainable. Wolff has the chance to give us a great gameday experience and competitive teams for the indefinite future.”
    You could argue that Haas gave A’s fans the best game day experience the franchise has ever seen (in any of it’s stops) AND he fielded the most glamorous team in baseball that won a championship and was in contention to win more. All of this without fracturing the fan base like Wolff seems to be doing.

    “Let me put it this way, if you gave me the chance between a World Series win this year or a new ballpark, I would take the ballpark.”
    I am torn on that. I would probably lean towards the championship. I think seeing another title in my life is going to be more of a struggle than seeing the A’s get a new yard. But, I’m of the opinion, as of now, that the A’s won’t be contracted or leave the Bay Area anytime soon. It may take a while, but I’m sure something is going to get done somewhere in the Bay. Nothing beats a title win and it’s been forever since one of my teams has done it.

  38. It may have been a heavy duty analogy, but it was spot on. This was a done deal if the Maloofs had held up their end of the bargain. Instead they’ve essentially thrown the game.

  39. “You could argue that Haas gave A’s fans the best game day experience the franchise has ever seen (in any of it’s stops)”
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    As of today, sure.
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    “AND he fielded the most glamorous team in baseball that won a championship and was in contention to win more.”
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    Yes, but only for a few years. I’m a big picture guy, I’m much more interested in the long term.
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    “All of this without fracturing the fan base like Wolff seems to be doing.”
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    I’m not sure the fan base is all that fractured. It may seem so based on posts on this blog and certain other fan sites, but those blog posters represent a miniscule percentage of the fan base. ]
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    “I think seeing another title in my life is going to be more of a struggle than seeing the A’s get a new yard.”
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    I don’t know how old you are, so it’s tough for me to say. But if you’re somewhere between 30 and 60, let’s say, you probably have somewhere between 20 and 50 years left. If the A’s get a new ballpark, I’d say you have an excellent chance of seeing at least one more title.
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    “But, I’m of the opinion, as of now, that the A’s won’t be contracted or leave the Bay Area anytime soon.”
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    Contracted, no. Leave the Bay Area, probably not anytime soon. But really, the idea of the A’s rotting away in the Coliseum for 10 or 15 years, with no realistic hope to compete and fans whining about management (regardless of who that is, because they will whine), is just unbearable to me. It would suck all the joy out of being a fan, because hope would be gone. I wouldn’t stop being an A’s fan, but I would probably stop following the team so closely, because it just wouldn’t be fun anymore.
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    “It may take a while, but I’m sure something is going to get done somewhere in the Bay.”
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    If not San Jose, maybe Fremont, but otherwise I just see the A’s twisting in the wind. Even Fremont would take a while at this point.
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    “Nothing beats a title win and it’s been forever since one of my teams has done it.”
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    For me, an announcement that the A’s have been approved for San Jose and the deal is done will feel very much like winning a title.

  40. Bart/eb, Kings thread, not A’s. There are several hundred A’s threads on this site… use one.

  41. I know it looks bad when I say this but the Maloofs are right in their arguments for several reasons.

    The city refuses to publicly address the issues at hand with concrete responses and planning. Instead they pout about the Maloofs backing out instead addressing why?

    Kevin Johnson is trying to get votes for his re-election campaign that is going down this year and he failed miserably in trying to get this done.

    He put the “chicken before the egg” on too many pieces of this project and prematurely celebrated what was in reality a “non-binding” agreement.

    The Maloofs as owners of the team have full right to question this thoroughly especially after the city failing on so many occasions before.

    Why would they want to move to Anaheim and share with the Ducks and Sameuli when they can have a brand new facility in Sacramento where they will not have to fight the Lakers and Clippers for fans?

    Sacramento like Oakland has shown grave incompetence over the years, to blindly trust them is a bad business move and I see clearly the Maloofs point on that piece. Why invest a dime in something you have major issues with?

    Past results are usually a good indicator of future results. Sacramento in the past has been horrendous when trying to get an arena deal done and to think it was all of a sudden going to happen was foolish and KJ knows it now.

    I will say KJ put a good foot forward and tried his best. But at the end of the day he and the city are being to over optimistic about not only the arena itself but the revenue streams and possible opposition.

    Renovating the current arena will not work because it is too small. There is not enough room to renovate the place.

    The Oakland Arena back in the 1990s before renovation was barely large enough to facilitate what we see today and that arena was far larger than Power Balance.

    As I said before, the Kings are done in Sacramento and the NBA was foolish in its own right to think anything could get done. They will be in Anaheim for the 2013-2014 season and it was inevitable.

    TV wise, the Maloofs will make $$ even though they will revenue share with Sameuli on everything in Orange County.

    The direct beneficiaries here? The Golden State Warriors. With the Kings out of the way their TV revenue just doubled at least.

    They now will be able to broadcast games all the way to Eureka where as now they are blacked out anywhere outside of they Bay Area.

    With the Hornets sold to Tom Benson, San Jose will not get a team now leaving Nor Cal a huge 1-team market.

    The Warriors get richer by default……It kills me to see them make $$ with such a crappy product. Oh well, that is the NBA for you. Big market teams rule while small market teams get dumped on.

  42. Sid-

    for pete’s sake, the maloofs are broke, they don’t have the capitals to run a NBA team. The NBA basically loan them most of the money they will need for this deal.

    The maloofs are just looking for ways to leverage the team for more money from anybody anywhere. Thats their only goal. They have burned the fortune their dad left for them.

  43. i think sea is a more likely place to the kings than adding a 3rd team in socal. lakers don’t want another team in the la market and maybe that’s the kings weren’t allowed to move down there after last season. sea is the 12th biggest market in the country and there are some who speculating key arena could be renovated to lure away both an nba and nhl team to the sea area again.

    do agree now that it looks unlikely that a 2nd team will be moving to the bay area anytime soon. hornets were just sold to the saints owners so they’ll likely stay in no for the foreseeable future and the only other franchise that’s been rumored to be looking to move in recent years were the grizz and although the reports were ellison was gonna to buy the team and move them to sj eventually, ellison dropped out and who knows what happens with the grizz.

    • @letsgoas

      …and there are some who speculating key arena could be renovated to lure away both an nba and nhl team to the sea area again.

      Key Arena is too small for a NHL team. They would have to completely demolish the building (even more than they did in 1995) to be able to expand it to fit an NHL rink, add the amount of premium seating/suites that modern arenas need, and add to the overall capacity. It can certainly be used as a temporary location, but a new arena definitely needs to be build in Seattle.

  44. yeah was listening to clayton’s show on espn radio seattle last weekend and they were talking about a new arena being built near by the port area of the city so it’d be away from the qwest/safeco which are next to each other. probably isn’t room nearby to build an arena and would the city of sea really want to build another venue there when they can find another location that could use the boost an arena would give to that area of the city.

    imo sea probably has the two best duo of mlb/nfl stadiums right now so if any arena they build in the future comes close to those two venues, the city of sea may have the best venues in all of american sports as a whole.

  45. @letsgoas-Ellison didn’t dropout of trying to buy the Grizzlies- current owner ended talks when LE mabe it clear he would relocate franchse near term regardless of the penalty clauses. He obviously wants an NBA team- wouldn’t be surprised to see him try and get Kings behind the scenes

  46. by all means if ellison can buy the kings and move them to sj i’d love to see that happen and give bay area basketball fans another choice with the w’s being still at this time a mediocre franchise. especially those east bay fans who feel they’re getting screwed over and shunned by the current ownership that not only wants to move the w’s to sf but has set up every big announcement the team has made in sf instead of oak since they gained full control of the franchise back in the fall of 2010.

  47. Sid, what incompetence has Sac shown over the years? They’ve tried repeatedly to get an arena built for the Maloofs only to have the bozos torpedo it each time, this time being the most direct of course. Seems to me Sac has been the opposite of Oakland. Very responsive, willing to spend public money, willing to put initiatives before voters, politicians putting their balls on the line. Only to have the Maloofs fuck it up over and over.
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    Was everything about this deal concrete… no. But it was well past the initial stages and any concerns could easily have been dealt with. Instead of coming to the table the Maloofs turned the table over and then pissed on it.

  48. Dan thanks for that nugget on Samueli. It seems like these guys don’t want to sell but want to relocate so Anaheim makes most sense given Seattle needing an NHL team to to make it happen there. It would be much better if Burkle bought. Given the way NBA distributes revenue it is easier to survive in Sac no?

  49. AyHaas was a great owner, only because he didn’t run his team like a business because back then you could lose a couple mill and buy a world series title. The game has changed forever. If we’re comparing Apples to Oranges might as well cite Connie Mack as the greatest owner ever.

    @Dan. This is an A’s stadium blog, not a King’s arena blog. Any A’s-related post is more relevant than a King’s related one by default.

  50. I remember the intitiative to bud an arena at the railyards… The Maloofs torpedoed that. These guys are clowns. Jeffrey Loria level clowns. I hope Larry Ellison buys the team and keeps them in Sacramento. It’s close enough that he can take his private jet out to the place in 30 minutes.

  51. Jeffrey,

    I would doubt Larry Ellison would keep the team in Sacramento. Seems like he is deadset on bringing a team into the Bay, likely in SJ. I think Burkle seems to be the person interested in keeping them in Sac, and I do think the finances would work for them.

  52. That’s what makes this really pathetic. Burkle is waiting in the wings to be the white knight. They have their white knight, the kind of guy the Oakland Only crowd for the A’s would blow their load over… and the douchebag Maloofs won’t sell. They’d rather move the team to Anaheim to be the 3rd team in a region and on top of that they’d lose the team inside 5 years to Samueli anyway when the loans from him come due. They gain nothing from moving and actually stand to lose even more money, yet they spitful pricks are going to do it anyway.

  53. So long as the Maloofs are owners I won’t be a Kings fan, not any more. Everyone I’ve talked to is not going to games. But if the Magoofs are strong armed into selling and the Kings stay, I’ll support them whole heartedly.
    As for them leaving, I won’t be a fan – I’m not the biggest nba guy anyway.

  54. I am a kings fan (not like I am an A’s or 49ers fan). I sort of follow both the kings and warriors without much passion, more like a rooting interest. If they moved to Anaheim I wouldn’t follow the team anymore. Makes me shudder to think about the A’s leaving the Bay Area altogether. I’d follow them as far as Sacramento… Not sure if they moved any further.

  55. couple of things…
    1 – This arena deal cratering is 100% on the Maloofs, and it was done with malice aforethought. They were pissed off last year that KJ got the hail-mary one year reprieve, but they thought that Sacto could never pull it off. Unfortunately for the Maloofs, Sacto did pull it off, and so the Maloofs had to scramble and work behind the scenes to sabotage the deal. That they came out and participated in the celebration when the handshake deal was done (while they’ve been talking to Anaheim all the while) just shows them to be the absolute dickbags that they appear to be.

    2 – For all its faults (*cough*Earthquakes*cough*), there is one thing that AEG knows how to do, and that is to develop and run an arena. They’ve done it in LA, in London, in Tokyo, hell they’ve even gotten an arena to be profitable in Kansas City. So when George Maloof said in his press conference that “I’m a developer, I know how to build things”, I believe that one of the local radio guys up here put it best: “The Maloofs are a pebble on AEG’s shoe.”

    3 – The end result of all of this is that the Kings will be in Sacramento for only one more season. But after that, it is my belief that the Sacramento Kings will become the “new” Seattle Supersonics, and will play in Key Arena for two seasons or so while a new arena is built in Seattle, probably in the SoDo area near Qwest and Safeco.

    4 – The Maloofs are a bunch of lying sacks of crap, each and every one of them. I hope they all collectively die in a fire.

  56. The question what happens if the Kings leave. Does Sacramento go after an established sports team? While, Sacramento may not draw the same revenue as San Jose, public funds and no settlement to the Giants may make it almost as profitable. How do the other MLB owners view such a privately funded ballpark as the A’s are purposing in San Jose? I can see some preferring to avoid that precedent. Maybe too cynical.

    Heck under such a scenario, Giants may suggest the A’s keep the EBay rights to keep other franchises out of the Bay Area with the A’s and Giants keeping their current media rights.

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