Mesa deal closer, San Jose deal not

Update 11:00 PM – Mark Purdy has a recap of today’s “events”.

MLB.com’s Barry M. Bloom reports that while Commissioner Bud Selig’s three-man panel made a presentation to the Executive Council today, there was nothing new to report on the Oakland/San Jose situation. The panel has presented information at different intervals, so this is no surprise. However, remember that everything comes from the top down: panel presents to Executive Committee, then the issue (probably) goes to the Relocation Committee, then to all of the owners for a vote (if it gets that far).

Spring training homes have no expressed territorial rights, so Lew Wolff’s efforts to put together a deal with Mesa at HoHokam Stadium continue unabated. According to Bloom, improvements to Hohokam would cost $10-15 million, with the city footing 60% of the bill and the A’s 40%. I look forward to seeing the plans, and will dissect them as you’d expect me to when the time comes.

26 thoughts on “Mesa deal closer, San Jose deal not

  1. If it gets that far? Cmon RM! Where’s the optimism? Surely at this point I wouldn’t expect Selig/MLB to side with the selfish, unreasonable Giants. Reinsdorf gets it; surely the rest do as well.

  2. Sounds like they’re not saying anything until it’s done. Should be simple for the owners: Open up San Jose and make $$, or turn down San Jose and get ready to each own 1/29th of the money-losing Oakland A’s, where they are likely to stay for many years until some other city comes forward ready to buy them.

  3. @ Tony D. – I could be wrong but I think ML, by saying “If it get’s far far,” is referring to this owner’s meeting specifically.

    • @ Tony D. – I could be wrong but I think ML, by saying “If it get’s far far,” is referring to this owner’s meeting specifically.

      Got it Columbo. Got a little edgy last night thinking the decision would be voted on asap, but in hindsight I agree with you on a vote for this meeting specifically. After reading the Purdy article, feeling much, much better about the whole situation. Even Baer has changed his tone. It’s looking really good at this point!

  4. all positive from my perspective-discussing what they all said would not be discussed…as with any board you start with the executive council—they in essence are acting on behalf of the other’s—their recommendation carries lots of weight—finally being discussed—figure they have suggested compensation also to EC—February is seeming much more real right now–

  5. “far far”??? I obviously meant to say “that far.”

  6. quite possible it will never “get that far” meaning a vote of the other owners…if the gints see the writing on the wall–better to start negotiatign for your interests than have others operate on your behalf–

  7. They’d sill have to vote. What if they recommend something in Oakland? Until we know something, we don’t know anything. Sounds like a Yogism.

  8. if the gints and A’s reach agreement it still requires a vote? sorry…there isn’t any scenario where I see the BRC recommendation to stay in Oakland…my opinion—

  9. Somehow, I don’t think we’re going to hear anything until the FanFest is over. The team can always throw “no decision has been made” at any of the Oakland-only people showing up to protest….If MLB recommends something in Oakland, then it must mean MLB has a construction plan, a site and financing ready to go forward with a new ballpark there. I’m OK with that. Now does anyone think MLB actually has the latter two of those requirements in Oakland – a site and the cash? It’s been dragging out this long precisely because there is no money and no site in Oakland.

    • Somehow, I don’t think we’re going to hear anything until the FanFest is over. The team can always throw “no decision has been made” at any of the Oakland-only people showing up to protest.

      All 14 of them? WIth their vouchers for $10 bleacher seats?

  10. does anyone know who, besides reinsdorf, sits on the EC?

  11. That;s the second time Baer said something that made me think he knows the outcome and that it isn’t what he wants. There was the KNBR interview where he said “We are 1 team out of 30 and we will do what is best for the League” or something like that… Interesting. Could be nothing though.

  12. Glad to see HoHoKam is coming along. Can’t wait to see what kind of upgrades they have in store for the 15 year old venue.

  13. re: Fanfest. There is a facebook page that is attempting to get more people protesting outside than going inside to the fanfest. Can everybody here make an attempt to get to the fanfest?

  14. Hmmmm. I see 3 people are already in, including dudes girlfreind. Barrack, and the other 45,000 must be busy. Free parking is the major selling point. Big suprise there.

  15. @GoA’s Can’t find the link now, but IIRC the executive committee is made up of Selig and eight owners who rotate serving on the committee. I don’t think the current members of the committee are public knowledge.

  16. Thx gojohn- I assume that whatever decision this group comes to will be what goes forward- we know reinsdorf supports the move- was wondering if the gints were part of the EC now or even when neukom was involved last year

  17. Any progress is good progress as this point.

    The Giants know full well they are going to lose San Jose. The question I think now is what is fair compensation for sharing the entire market and how can they protect the Giants value and revenue similar to the Baltimore Orioles when the Nationals came to DC.

    That can be done via revenue sharing the revenue piece and value can be guaranteed. The hard part is the lump sum MLB is going to give to them.

    That is a pretty complicated piece that I think they have finally made some kind of traction of. Hence all the rumors and the meeting yesterday that was “unofficial”.

    Wolff is the most patient man I have ever seen. He loves Selig unconditionally but I think he is happy just to be in the lodge.

    If Wolff could build in Oakland I think he wouldn’t mind….at least he gets to own a team with a new ballpark. That is enough for him.

  18. From twitter:
    EricFisherSBJ Eric Fisher
    Selig on #A’s/#Giants situation: “we’re moving at a very quick pace.” But once again, who knows what/when that means.

  19. Maury Brown tweeted me back about the makeup of the Executive council:

    I have tried to get Exec Council list and was told, “We don’t release that info.” It changes, so hard to say who is on

    .
    Also Purdy’s latest tweet says “Selig indicates he won’t let any SJ ballpark ballot issue proceed until Giants’ front group drop suit vs city over EIR.”

  20. Purdy’s latest: Selig indicated that he would not allow such an election to proceed unless the Giants agree to stay out of that process in terms of supporting an anti-ballpark campaign
    …this is what I’ve been saying. MLB cannot have one team fighting another team’s ballpark efforts. The teams compete on the field. Everywhere else, the are partners, franchises in the same corporation.

  21. “Maury Brown tweeted me back about the makeup of the Executive council: I have tried to get Exec Council list and was told, “We don’t release that info.” It changes, so hard to say who is on”
    .
    It doesn’t matter because the decision will be Selig’s. Peter Angelos was on the Executive Council when the Expos move to Washington was approved (and so was Peter Magowan, by the way), and it didn’t stip anything.
    .
    The EC will do what Selig recommends, and Selig will not make a recommendation until he sees a way to make both the Giants and A’s happy.

  22. HoHoKam doesn’t really need any upgrading, per se. It’s a good place to watch a game, and can handle crowds far larger than the A’s will draw for most games. Not that they won’t blow a bunch of money on it anyway. Win-win for Mesa and lose-lose for Phoenix, especially if the Brewers leave Maryvale (lease up this year and not yet renewed.)

    The fundamental problem with HoHoKam is that there are only 1 and 1/2 other diamonds on the property, The Cubs minor league complex is a mile down the road at Fitch Park, unlike (most? all?) other AZ ST complexes where everything is on one site. It’s surrounded by houses, so that would be a difficult, expensive issue to fix.

  23. A’s looking to shrink the capacity of HoHoKam

    The most significant pieces of financing involve shrinking the size of HoHoKam Stadium — the Cubs are the Cactus League’s biggest draw, the A’s one of the poorest — and upgrading the Fitch Park practice facilities.
    Smith (Mesa mayor) said the Fitch deal would be similar to what the Cubs were seeking before they decided to leave HoHoKam.

  24. That’s actually an easy change to make at HoHoKam. Just tear down the aluminum bleachers above the main grandstands down either line.

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