Davis wants Alameda County at the table, but…

This is not unexpected, yet strange.

If memory serves, Davis still hasn’t paid the minuscule 2014 rent at the Coliseum, all while currently making improvements to the Alameda training facility. Seems like there’s a quick way to get everyone on the same page, especially if Davis’s request is just a first step towards completing a Coliseum City deal.

More from BANG’s Matthew Artz:

Looks like Davis’s go-it-alone strategy isn’t going so swimmingly, hence the pivot back to Kephart. Plus now Ron Leuty of the SF Business Times sheds additional light on the County’s resistance to Coliseum City.

‘Currently, (Alameda County) is not at the table,’ said Floyd Kephart, the lead executive of New City Development LLC told an Oakland business group Thursday, though he planned to meet Thursday afternoon with Alameda County Supervisor Scott Haggerty.

The City’s priority is clearly to work out the future of the Coliseum area, beyond the complex. The County’s appears to be fixated on the debt issue, which, while small in the grand scheme of things ($2-3 billion in total development), is plenty large enough to trip up any plan. Few entities can afford to write off $100+ million of debt. Packaging that debt creatively is a monumental task in and of itself. If the County wants to get tough on this, it’s their right and responsibility. Because without the County, there is no deal even if an EIR gets certified. So much for everyone being on the same page.

More comments from Kephart and reaction from Haggerty via Artz:

‘Just come to the bloody table and make a reasonable and fair attempt to see if we can keep the Raiders, build a stadium and do this development,’ said Floyd Kephart, a San Diego-based businessman who is trying to finance the city’s multibillion Coliseum City project, which envisions new stadiums for both teams at the Coliseum site.

Kephart’s remarks before a meeting of the West Oakland Commerce Association, didn’t sit well with Alameda County Supervisor Scott Haggerty who said the county was doing its due diligence. “I don’t know why people are insinuating that we are not at the table,” he said in a phone interview before a scheduled meeting with Kephart. ‘Just because you are asking questions doesn’t mean you are not at the table.’

So many moving parts. Davis wants to try his own bid, then gets back together with Kephart (how willingly is unclear). Haggerty, who is now the President of the Board of Supervisors, is taking on the role of chief inquisitor. Hey, nobody said it would be easy.

40 thoughts on “Davis wants Alameda County at the table, but…

  1. What is Mark Davis up to?!?!?! Hmmmm, withholding your rent only to call Scott Haggerty out for a meeting?!?!?! As Jim Morrison once said…..”People are strange when your a stranger….faces look ugly when your alone.”

  2. In regards to the $400,000 in rent that the Oakland Raiders own the JPA. My source tells me that since Lew Wolff decided to not pay the $3 million the A’s owned the JPA in rent and spend it on a $10million dollar scoreboard, Mark Davis is also interested in using that $400,000 towards improvements to the Coliseum instead of paying rent.

  3. What do you expect from one of the worst run franchises in US sports. They barely pay any rent and should be kicked out of O.Co for being the piece of work that they are? Name one city in the US that just bends over backwards to its football or baseball team and gets very little in return. Don’t they still owe some school down in LA back rent for the brief time that they used it as a practice facility? MD needs to come up with a plan or GTFO. Everyone knows that he is just checking the block for 2015 and preparing to move the team to some location for 2016.

  4. We have 2 owners who both say that only 1 can stay at the current site and build new. Why is it so hard for Oakland to tell the Raiders it’s time to move down the road to Santa Clara. Based upon the Charger’s rumblings this week there are 3 teams fighting for LA and something tells me the Raiders might be odd man out.

    Or perhaps the Raiders should move to LA with the Rams and the Chargers move to San Jose and share Levi stadium….stranger things have happened 🙂

  5. A new stadium deal for the Raiders in all likelihood will be viewed by MLB as the end of the road for the A’s in Oakland. Hope the city/county recognize this.

  6. @Mike2

    Affirmative. The old El Segundo Jr. High was converted to the Raiders facility in the early 80’s. When they bolted back to Oakland, the Raiders were waffling on the rental agreement they signed through 1998 as well as payments to subsidize turning it back into a school.

    When the Raiders moved back to Oakland, the cost to convert the school back to its original 1982 state was over $1 mil. To bring it up to current standards in 1995 it was $3 mil. They also owed rent for three more years.

    The result? After 4 years in the courts the Raiders paid a settlement of $350k to the city. What happened to the school? It reopened after the city was forced to issue special tax bonds to cover the total cost to convert it back to a school.

    The owner of this team called his own WR, Bob Chandler, in the hospital after getting the Last Rites from a very serious spleen injury. Instead of wishing him a speedy recovery, Chandler was told that he could still play without his spleen.

    El Segundo has no love for this team for obvious reasons.

    • Did Libby just pull a JQ..? “I’m very pleased to have now gotten the county on board with the city,” Schaaf said. “We are co-owners of the Coliseum land, so nothing will happen unless we are working jointly. For the first time, that is happening.” And then you have Artz claiming that Haggerty had to convince Davis to work with Kephardt today- same dance- just different actors- f’ing crazy

  7. Added to post:

    More from BANG’s Matthew Artz:

    Looks like Davis’s go-it-alone strategy isn’t going so swimmingly, hence the pivot back to Kephart. Plus now Ron Leuty of the SF Business Times sheds additional light on the County’s resistance to Coliseum City.

    ‘Currently, (Alameda County) is not at the table,’ said Floyd Kephart, the lead executive of New City Development LLC told an Oakland business group Thursday, though he planned to meet Thursday afternoon with Alameda County Supervisor Scott Haggerty.

    The City’s priority is clearly to work out the future of the Coliseum area, beyond the complex. The County’s appears to be fixated on the debt issue, which, while small in the grand scheme of things ($2-3 billion in total development), is plenty large enough to trip up any plan. Few entities can afford to write off $100+ million of debt. Packaging that debt creatively is a monumental task in and of itself. If the County wants to get tough on this, it’s their right and responsibility. Because without the County, there is no deal even if an EIR gets certified. So much for everyone being on the same page.

    More comments from Kephart and reaction from Haggerty via Artz:

    “Just come to the bloody table and make a reasonable and fair attempt to see if we can keep the Raiders, build a stadium and do this development,” said Floyd Kephart, a San Diego-based businessman who is trying to finance the city’s multibillion Coliseum City project, which envisions new stadiums for both teams at the Coliseum site.

    Kephart’s remarks before a meeting of the West Oakland Commerce Association, didn’t sit well with Alameda County Supervisor Scott Haggerty who said the county was doing its due diligence. “I don’t know why people are insinuating that we are not at the table,” he said in a phone interview before a scheduled meeting with Kephart. “Just because you are asking questions doesn’t mean you are not at the table.”

    So many moving parts. Davis wants to try his own bid, then gets back together with Kephart (how willingly is unclear). Haggerty, who is now the President of the Board of Supervisors, is taking on the role of chief inquisitor. Hey, nobody said it would be easy.

  8. Kephart is coming off as desperate.

  9. Perhaps I’m just an Oakland Raiders optimist, but I find Mark Davis being more amenable to Kephart to be a good thing. Why does it have to equate to things not going “so swimmingly” for the Raiders, or Davis bailing on his own bid? Get in bed with Kephart and use your $500 million to get er done Mark!!

  10. What excuse will the Oakland-apologists use for Mark Davis now?

    • 2 owners- 1 who is doing what ge san to keep his team in the Bay Area while the other has been working to move his team out of the Bay Area, behind the scenes, including buying property in LA. And who is the villain? Crazy

    • Uhh, GoA’s…what exactly did MD do that was negative? Based on the info RM provided in this post, I’m not seeing it.

    • i’m sure they’ll find a way to blame wolff for this.

  11. The title of this article should read: Davis wants Alameda County at the table but is getting ready to say F You to Oakland at the end of 2015.

  12. Last man standing. Congrats, A’s.

    • Congrats? More like “I’m so sorry.” C’mon all, this thing is far from over! My money is still on the Raiders in Oakland and the A’s in SJ…take that to the bank!

  13. Raiders-Chargers in LA. Don’t let the doors hit you on the way out. What happens to the Rams?

    • Pjk, try reading the ENTIRE article before coming to such wild commentary re Raiders/Chargers to LA. (Psss, only if things don’t work out in their home markets)

      • And things are NOT working out in their home markets. Davis wants a stadium in Oakland, which he can’t afford and Oakland can’t afford. The Chargers have been trying for 15 years or so to get a new stadium and have gotten nowhere. Oakland knows Davis has been talking to San Antonio and LA already, which has prompted the city to up its offer for stadium construction from $0.00 to $0.00.

      • But let me guess: it will all work out brilliantly for the A’s at the Coli once the Raiders leave. “Money making development rights to Coli! 81 games per year! Free unicorn rides for everyone! …”

    • The fat fuck with the bowl cut is going to pull off a $1.7B deal?

    • I have just two words for the NFL…..GET OUT!!!

  14. anybody notice the renderings of the la stadium look eerily similar to that of levi’s stadium with that “suite tower” having all the luxury boxes stacked up onto of one another.

    • Yes, I noticed that re: the resemblance to Levi’s. $1.7 billion. Wow. This sort of pressure is more likely to have San Diegans and Oaklanders offering to pack the teams’ bags than pony up taxpayer dollars for stadiums….The Raiders have a brand new stadium that they can use in their market, in Santa Clara. Why can’t they just go there, with plans to “Raider-ize” it for their games, and let the A’s have the Coliseum parking lot?

      • how can you raider-ize it when you have 70k red seats and all the images of niners history thru out the venue? not sure the niners even want the raiders around and have that very small minority of their fans vandalizing the place and if you saw some pics after that first event with the mlb game between sj and sea, you already had a raider fans or two vandalize the place. imagine having 60k-70k there 10 times a year and what again a very small amount of raider would do to that venue.

        though i guess the niners could put up with it if they’re getting extras of millions of dollars but in terms of pr i don’t know if the niner org would be ready for the backlash both by the raider fan base and even niner fan base.

        short term i guess it could work out but i doubt long term both the raider fans and org wants to stay in what will def fill like your a visitor visiting somebody else’s home no matter how much temporary silver and black decor they could put up.

  15. letsgoas: When the fans are in the seats, nobody sees that the seats are red. 70,000 fans in silver-and-black will do a lot to obscure the red. They can use curtains, whatever, to cover up some of the 49ers stuff. All the 49er statues, FWIW, are in the 49er museum, which would require a separate admission fee that Raiders fans certainly wouldn’t want to pay. I do agree there would need to be some sort of “deposit’ paid by the Raiders to fix any damage done by upset, inebriated fans who resent being in the 49ers stadium. What options do the Raiders have, really? Moving to LA and sharing with a division rival? San Antonio? The most cost-effective option is the one in Santa Clara.

    • from what i’ve read tonight if it’s a chargers and raiders joint venture then one of those two teams would have to move most likely to the nfc west since i guess there is some rule i don’t know where that you can’t have two teams playing in the same venue being in the same division?

      another big issue if the raiders were to move to levis stadium either for the short or long term is how much would tickets cost for raider games at levis stadium? i’m not sure niner fans who are paying top dollar to have access to all the bells and whistles that the most luxurious aspects of levis stadium provide will be happy if raider fans pay much less and get access to the same areas of the stadium.

      at this time i don’t know if the raiders would rather be 2nd class citizen at levis even if it means they stay in the bay over rather than going down to la again and being treated at the very least as equals in that joint nfl stadium.

      pretty sure the raiders would love to have their own hof and or museum and is there any space left at levis stadium to build such a place? if they move to la and move into a new stadium and they can plan every little detail about what they want i’d guess they’d rather have that and wouldn’t have to shoe a hot and other things they may want like they would at levis stadium if that scenario were to take place.

      • edit in previous post…

        shoe horn in a lot and other things they may want like they would at levis stadium if that scenario were to take place.

      • I’m pretty sure there’s plenty of room for a Raiders HoF at Levi’s. Sorry, Raiders. You’re in a city now that can’t help you with a new stadium. Santa Clara’s the best offer you’re going to get.

  16. How much will each team pay the NFL in relocation fees?

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